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Tipping on alcohol at a restaurant

I read an article once (I think Food and Wine, but I don't really remember) where a writer went to celebrate and bought two expensive bottles of wine. The bottles of wine were more expensive than the food ordered. However, the waiter, after bringing over the bottles and opening it, never really did anything. When the guy was leaving, he tipped 20% for the food, but didn't tip on the wine. When the waiter followed him out to ask him if there was anything wrong, the man replied no. The waiter continued and asked, then why did he tipped so little, and an argument ensued over the tip on the wine. The man was pissed off and crossed off the tip on the credit card bill and replaced it with 0%.

Is there a rule for this? Do you just tip 20% on the wine no matter what? For $40 bottles, this is not that big of a deal, but at several hundred (or thousand) it is.. so i was just wondering if there was some sort of rule for tipping on alcohol...

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57 Comments

  1. Rudy McBagel

    rinda....ive worked in banking for 20 years....never asked for a tip.

    choices. they made shitty ones.....so why should i pay?

  2. Wellerfan

    What about tip jars in delis. Who started that phenomena?

  3. Yvo

    Wow Rudy... elitist much???

  4. Yvo

    mkim - that depends on the establishment but I suppose if they have a $1k bottle of wine on the menu, those servers probably do generally pull in a lot of money.

  5. Samwich

    Why tip someone for a job I'm capable of doing myself? I can deliver food. I can drive a taxi. I can, and do, cut my own hair. I did however, tip my urologist, because I am unable to pulverize my own kidney stones.

  6. Yvo

    Samwich, I am positive that has already been quoted ON THIS BLOG and possibly even by you.

    I'd like to see Dwight create the type of food served at places that also offer $1k bottles of wine, though.

  7. Samwich

    Yvo...you may be right!!!! but i cant agree with dwight...i tip.

    how about open bars...do you guys tip?...
    two scenraios...wedding open bars
    and like a mcfaddens 20$ open bar.

    i tip for both...in most cases i just drop in a 5-10 for the night...cuz who really has that many singles lying around

  8. Yvo

    For open bar weddings, I tip at the beginning of the night - $10 if I'm going to go easy and $20 if I'm going to be a lush. It ensures prompt and generous service. (Ok, I'll be honest, it's usually my boyfriend doing so, but he's the one getting the drinks anyway, so I rarely deal with the bartender myself.)

    McFadden's $20 open bar I still tip, they're still doing the same as if I didn't get an all-you-can-drink tab...

  9. mkim1206

    Yvo, yes, my sis is a pastry cook who graduated from CIA. she told me some of the waiters who work in her restaurant drive mercedez and earn more than a six figure a year. I don't think her pastry chef makes that much...or even the executive chef for that matter.

  10. Yvo

    Oh, I believe it. And that money is earned from tips on $1k bottles of wine.

  11. rinda

    i find it hard to believe that a an average chef makes more than an average server. maybe a line cook but not the head chef. and even at the finer dining establishment there is a heirarchy in terms of the front of the house. most restaurants servers have to pay their dues. for instance, when you first start waiting tables most, if not all, servers do not get paid for the training they go through. this may be anywhere from 1-5 shifts. and you will not be getting the better shifts right away like a weekend dinner service. and NY law does not enforce a mandatory minimum wage to servers so all servers rely on the tips they earn from the tables they serve.

    and i do not buy the "i can do the job myself so why should i tip" attitude. if that's the case, then go buy yourself some groceries and make the food yourself at home.

    and Rudy: im sure you never turned down a bonus in your 20 years, right?

    i am not saying all waiters/waitresses deserve generous tips all the time. it does boil down to the quality of service you receive and the experience of the meal. but unless you've actually waited tables and had to deal with customers who may not be so friendly themselves, i dont think it fair to make statements that people who work in the food service industry do not deserve their fair share.

  12. Rudy McBagel

    Bonus?......me?

    The Aston DBS was paid for by sexual favours to Pelosi...........it took me 5 hours and i had to buy a HMO.

  13. Chris H.

    Rudy, i'm sure you meet a lot of interesting people as a bank teller.

  14. wslee00

    ah - another one of these tipping threads... everyone loves putting in their two cents, but nobody ever sways another's opinion on the subject

    And I can't resist - here's my two cents... if you are buying $1000 bottles of wine, you really shouldn't care about a 20% tip... if you do, you really shouldn't be buying that $1k bottle in the first place.

    @adam's comment

    People who can afford $1K bottles of wine probably got to the point where they can afford $1K bottles of wine by minding their money, especially "how much to tip".

    if they are buying 1k bottles, they are NOT the frugal types you mention here

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