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Posted: 4:13 pm, November 2nd, 2009 in Eating in Other Areas of NYC
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I did forget about Molly's. That IS a good burger. And very good Irish fare in general there. Though in addition to the shit-shakes at NY Burger Co, I don't really like their burgers either - the patties seem too processed or something.
Speaking of the IP issue, here's a neat list of alternate names FnF should have considered. http://www.blogowogo.com/blog_article.php?aid=2453545&t=8
I think McDowell's is the winner there (home of the Golden Arcs). Odds are In-N-Out is well aware of FnF already. I follow and am followed by a twitter fan group of In-N-out that I think is actually run by In-N-Out themselves. They found me through some previous In-n-Out tweets, so I am sure they saw my (and others) tweets about it and what ever legal process that could start is already under way or at least evaluation.
Am I burger fan? Yes - very much so. Have I been reading the A Hamburger Today blog for years well before they became part of the Serious Eats network? Yes. Would I rather tuck into a monster juicy Cheeseburger from Kozy Soup-N-burger on B'way than a top sirlon at Ruth's Chris? Yes. Am I a shill for FnF? No. Do I run a business on 23rd Street - yes. It's a fitness (Pilates and gyrotonic) space above Hale and Hearty Soup. Feel free to stop in and say hi - ask for Chris (that's me, the non-shill).
Did I ever say the food there was good? No? Did I say I look forward to them opening? Yes. I looked forward to Energy Kitchen opening on W23rd as well (decent Bison Cheesesteaks!) And a new location of Press panini grill is opening on my block on 23rd street - I'm psyched about that too.
As for BurgerMan. I don't speak for him. but comment #11 on the grubstreet article about nF looks pretty much like the post above. http://newyork.grubstreet.com/2009/11/will_fast-n-fresh_be_new_yorks.html
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Shill says: "I'll be happy to try Fresh-N-Fast because as far as burgers go in the Flatiron - outside of the Shack, I'm left with limited options"
Limited burger options. Around 23/Park. Really. Except of course for:
Better Burger
Burger At Its Best
Burger Heaven
Captain's Cafe
Coffee Shop
Coopertown Diner
East Side Cafe
Jackson Hole
Maxie's Bar & Grill
Molly's
Mulligan's Pub
New York Burger Co.
Old Town Bar & Restaurant
Rare Bar & Grill
Shake Shack
The Hairy Monk
The Watering Hole
ZiggizActually, here's a list of 257 restaurants with burgers on their menu in that area:
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Yo Wicked---I know Juanita! One of your trainers! She dated a friend of mine!
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having a burger on your menu does make you a burger place. Here's a run down.
Better Burger... excellent ostrich burgers, but this place is predominatly health food.
Burger At Its Best... not tried it
Burger Heaven... there is no burger heaven near 23rd street. though i like this diner-esque chain and really like the classic Patty melt
Captain's Cafe... not sure what that is
Coffee Shop.. You mean in Union Square? that's not 23rd street, nor is it a decent burger place
Coopertown Diner... don't know it, I imagine it's on 1st ave near Peter Cooper Vill and Sty town.
East Side Cafe... You can add Cosmo's and Gemini Diner to this list as well - all three are decent diners, but not burger specialists.
Jackson Hole... Was really good in 1995 when i first came to NYC, not so much any more.
Maxie's Bar & Grill... mentioned them, good selection, good food, but a buit pricey for a go-to lunch
Molly's... mentioned them in post 2, should ahve listed in my first list. good stuff there.
Mulligan's Pub... not familiar.
New York Burger Co... gawd awful
Old Town Bar & Restaurant... don't know it
Rare Bar & Grill... don't know it
Shake Shack... love it, usually go at night when's raining to avoid lines.
The Hairy Monk... meh. this is a frat-boy bar and little else
The Watering Hole... don't know it
Ziggiz... middlin cheesesteaks and the burgers are cardboard.
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Goats - is your friend a black belt in a dojo kind guy? if so I know who you are talking about and he trains with my wife a lot!
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Yep----he sure is!
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Captain cafe is right across from my office...32nd btwn mad and park.
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Goats - please let Tenchi know that Chris and Jen say hi - and he should come get his Gyro on (the workout not the sandwich!)
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LOL will do!
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Ah-HA! Pigiron - you gotta consider that a solid vouch from Goats. Only thing left to do is bury the hatchet over plates of fries and burgers. The Maxie's Grill 30 Slider combo special comes to mind as a good idea.
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OK=== One of the BEST ML threads ever, IMNSHO... Anyway, read this article which sounds VERY similar to what wickedced said... But then, you do have the Goats props so...
http://newyork.grubstreet.com/2009/11/will_fast-n-fresh_be_new_yorks.html
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so, no one has heard of it?
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Slater - we've all heard about it now. That's for darn sure. In the grand scheme of things, the tradedress issue will be interesting to see playout. You can't trademark "Double Cheesburger". But the fact that the styles of the FnF and InO brands are similar might be cause for FnF concern.
Slater - I've been out of NYC the past 4 days, you're across the street. Any progress ont he storefront?
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Ok,
I use to work in midtown and became a fan of this site was actually profiled a while ago, (Justin)(I actually live in midtown so I still read to find places, hello OBOA, must try everything) I now work one block from the new Fresh and Fast, and will try it when it opens, I am not hear next week, so the week after that. I wholly expect the place to be over priced and not as good as in -n -out but we will see. I am about as big an in-n-out fan a east coster could be, everythime I am in Vegas it is on the agenda, and that is a couple of times a year. I will post my thoughts when I try it.
Justin
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Anyone ever hear of it? Sign is up across from my office on 23rd and park. Google search only pulls up this:
http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/fbh/1438981949.html