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Posted: 4:13 pm, November 2nd, 2009 in Eating in Other Areas of NYC
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Geez, for $&+ I'll just stop in line at the Shack before I even make it over to FnF. Why take a chance? Even Blue 9 knows enough to price its burgers cheaper.
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[That should read "$7+"! It wasn't a curse--shift finger got stuck!]
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I am a big burger fan and have been trying a lot of the usual suspects in the city. I like what they have done with the branding and think its definitely has its own identity while keeping things familiar. I think its great to have a fresh face on the East coast.
As for some of you guys talking about the price...yes its true that In-N-Out is cheaper but since we're all in New York, it would be appropriate to add the price of a plane ticket to California to the meal ticket if you want to compare prices of Fresh-N-Fast to In-N-Out, since that would be the cost of lunch for a New Yorker to get to an In-N-Out.
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der...um burgerman--or shojuld i say shillman?
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shill overload, i don't think i'll ever try this place
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I will still try it since it's so close to my house, provided the lines aren't as bad as shakeshack. If the lines are dumb, I can refrain....
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Its amazing how much shilling they are doing without even being open yet. Can't wait to see how many more profiles they create after opening.
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If it's so great to have a fresh face, then why did you go to so much trouble to rip off another restaurant, right down to the font and colors on the menu? The answer is that you're trying to cash in on someone else's popularity, instead of letting your product stand on it's own. It's distasteful and deliberately deceiving. Coupled that with your ridiculous prices, I'm not going near this place (and I live on E23).
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So what I am gleaning then is that this midtownlunch.com should not be used for any kind of positive comments whatsoever. If you have anything nice to say, that you MUST be a shill. And only negativity can determine if you are an actual non-shill.
Uhmmmm. Re-donk-u-lous.
Is Fresh-N-Fast trying to get on an In-N-Out style bandwagon. Obviously. Are they going to get sued? Maybe. Are these elements that should preclude you from trying the place? No.
I'm not a shill. But I do own a business on the south side of East 23rd street b/w Park and Madison. I can give you the adrress and you can come see for you're damn selves. And there is a nice hipster-ethical reason to avoid most of the lunch places in that area. Hale & Hearty soups, for example - a nice mom-and-pop place that got bought out by big venture capital and is now being franchised to bejesus. Chipotle opened a location on E23. Too bad they were spawned by McDonalds. Shack Shake? Great food - but the cool factor is so 2006. Pax? Used to be good until they became identical to Cafe Metro and every other friggin' lunch place in the city.
Really people? get over it. I'll be happy to try Fresh-N-Fast because as far as burgers go in the Flatiron - outside of the Shack, I'm left with limited options. New York Burger Co - which might have the worst milkshakes in history. The 1MadPark building closed the Wendy's. Burger Joint on 3rd ave was good but closed like 2 years ago. I could walk to Kool Blue - not bad, and actually the Mr Big Burger is good and their chili is first rate. I could walk the other way to BRGR on 7th ave - also pretty good, though the patty's are tiny. Maxie's Grill down Park Ave has s good selection, but is pricey.
I'd love a 5 guys to open in the area, and I would assume that's only a matter of time. But what's the deal with no shakes there?
So hence, I am on baord to try FnF. And if they are serving fresh meat double cheeseburgers and cheese fries. Great. If they happen to have even 50% the taste that In-N-Out has. Even better.
FYI, the closest In-N-Out burger to NYC is in Las Vegas. The flights to there are cleaper than to LA as well.
Some posts on grubstreet are saying FnF opens on Nov 23. I'll likely be there since I work across the street. The only thing I'll be shilling for is a tasty goddamn burger.
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Hey Wicked--what do you own?
Positive comments are certainly different than "shill" type comments....
True Midtown lunchers don't give kudos to marketing in their posts! Nor do they talk about having "fresh faces." Nor do they talk about "plane tickets to California" justifying the hefty price. This is so obviously NOT a real ML post it is pathetic. If you can't get that, I hope, for your sake, you have better business savvy than your ability to detect self promoting BS. This was so obviously a shill it is just stupid....
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I don't think people understand what a shill is:
shill Slang. n. One who works as a decoy, as in a confidence game, by
posing as a customer or an innocent bystander. -intr.v.shilled shilling
shills To act as a shill. [Orig. unknown.]For example:
- The challahbackgirl or whatever, working for a beef company saying "OH THE BURGERS AT THIS RESTAURANT ARE AMAZING" where the restaurant in question is a customer of the company she worked for.
- Kolache Mama's PR guy posting positive reviews on a bunch of the posts about KM.
- kwikmeal posting two positive reviews from the same ip address within minutes of eachother.There's nothing wrong with promotion or self promotion. The sweets truck, the schnitzel truck, the queen frostine gals, all are upfront about their offerings in their promotions. Some guy pretending to be a loyal customer and raving about the food when the guy has some sort of financial interest in the success of the company is a pure shill and rightly gets called out on it.
So who knows if this burger fan is a shill. But if it looks like a shill, and posts like a shill, chances are it's a shill.
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These blatant shills by "Burgerman" and "wickedced" with the idiotic references to airfare for In-n-Out burgers are quite annoying. And no, you're not fooling any of us. "ML shouldn't be used for any positive comments whatsoever"? Puh-LEEZE. ML shouldn't be used for BASELESS positive SHILLS for a place that hasn't even opened yet! How can you praise this burger place when it hasn't served up a single patty? Shilling while pretending to be a "burger fan" or a strangely-interested nearby business owner, that's how. In fact, if I see one more stupid shill for this place, I'll make it a personal (and fun) hobby to visit every relevant website and blog I can find to totally trash this place. Go ahead, try and stop me.
Oh yeah. If you guys (yes, you, I'm not fooled one bit) are using the In-n-Out fonts, colors, similar menu, etc., then you will likely be sued for infringing In-n-Out's trade dress, even if you don't use the same verbiage (that's the correct spelling, btw). As an IP attorney, I know this stuff pretty well. What the heck, I'll make sure In-n-Out is aware of your copycat design as soon as you open up for business, if you haven't wised up and changed it to a non-copycat decor by then.
Man, I can't recall the last time I was ever so annoyed by a place that hasn't even opened yet!
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BTW, if you're on E 23rd and craving a good burger (besides the Shack), NY Burger Co. does have very good burgers (who gives a crap about their milkshakes?) and Molly's is right around the corner--best burger in the 'hood if you're really hungry!
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And as a fellow IP attorney, I too will act against Stale and Slow by sending a quick note to their GC---Their GENERAL COUNSEL! BOOYA! FTW!
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Anyone ever hear of it? Sign is up across from my office on 23rd and park. Google search only pulls up this:
http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/fbh/1438981949.html