Comments on: Phil’s Steaks Declared A Terrorist Threat By The FDNY?

By: deanlo

deanlo — Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:00:24 +0000

You were doing so good with being informative. Not sure why you moved on to confirmation bias, citing, of all things, occurrences of groupthink. Also loved the arg. ad hominem cherry on top.

I guess we’re done here. Thanks for playing along.

By: wayne

wayne — Fri, 26 Oct 2012 16:09:51 +0000

Greater danger here is not the terrorist threat from the trucks themselves but the terrorism they propagate…

Food truck lunches are dispensed to hundreds of asymptomatic carriers who then disseminate biohazardous bomblets throughout midtown, including but not limited to, sulphuric gas release, torrents of poisonous diahrrea and explosive excreatory cathartheses

A nefarious scheme… be careful out there

By: 5DollarQueen

5DollarQueen — Fri, 26 Oct 2012 15:37:42 +0000

@deanlo:
>Race was never an issue in the first place.

To think, all this time so many people were under the impression and have been declaring that the war on ‘terror’ was racially motivated and just another excuse to racially profile another group of nonwhites. Glad you proved them wrong.

By: deanlo

deanlo — Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:43:33 +0000

Your breakdown of minutia in my poorly worded response still doesn’t take away from the fact that brianhoffman is assuming the FDNY are being racist because they used the word ‘terrorism.’

To carry on the pedantry, I’ve already pointed my fingers where I intended to — straight at the people reporting on this story who play up what they perceive to be a racially motivated presentation.

http://midtownlunch.com/2012/10/25/phils-steaks-declared-a-terrorist-threat-by-the-fdny/#comment-254907

Race was never an issue in the first place. It was added to make things seem worse than they really are; it;s just one more level of sensationalism thrown in to rile us up. I’m calling the press out on their knee-jerk cries of racism.

By: 5DollarQueen

5DollarQueen — Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:14:05 +0000

>Crying racism is misguided because you’re already assuming all terrorists are a certain race.

We are not assuming this, the FDNY are which is why they included this bullet point in their power point presentation in the first place. We are just calling it for what it is, racism. You, otoh, are pointing fingers at the wrong people.

Acknowledging how American society likes to treat and regard entire groups of people simply based on race/ethnicity isn’t being racist. It’s called not being ignorant. Example: Assuming that all people of Latin descent are ‘illegals’ is racist & ignorant. Otoh, acknowledging that people are quick to assume that anyone of Latin descent is an ‘illegal’ even when they are not ISN’T racist. The latter is accepting the reality of the situation at hand as opposed to the aforementioned.

So if you are going to point fingers at least point them in the right direction. Otherwise it would seem, that you are giving the FDNY the benefit of a doubt rather than the people who are being targeted.

By: CheeeeEEEEse

CheeeeEEEEse — Fri, 26 Oct 2012 13:11:43 +0000

You forget about the NYPD going out of their jurisdiction to spy on Muslims in New Jersey, as well as the recent incident of the NYPD ‘baiting’ Muslims just so they can arrest them. http://www.chron.com/news/crime/article/Informant-NYPD-paid-me-to-bait-Muslims-3974058.php

By: CheeeeEEEEse

CheeeeEEEEse — Fri, 26 Oct 2012 13:08:43 +0000

Not racism, but there is definitely something amiss here. http://i.imgur.com/gH5do.jpg

By: LuxeSmurf

LuxeSmurf — Thu, 25 Oct 2012 21:51:57 +0000

The NYPD and other agencies who are fighting the so called “war on terror” are in many ways taking action that i believe is unconstitutional BUT….i think targeting food trucks is all about getting rid of the competition. Don’t believe me? Look at this link below:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-police-officer-cannibal-women-20121025,0,6041707.story

By: goatindaruffness

goatindaruffness — Thu, 25 Oct 2012 21:48:37 +0000

Access and long duration stays? Anyone they are serving will have access to wherever these food trucks are and can stay as long as they’d like, so anyone who eats at a food truck would be considered a terrorist threat as well. The problem isn’t weather this is only a bullet point presentation, or how seriously it’s taken so much as the dangerous precedent things like this can set. We have to be really careful going into the future that certain things aren’t worded in a way that exploit us and our freedoms, this is definitely a step in the wrong direction, whether the concern is real or not.

By: deanlo

deanlo — Thu, 25 Oct 2012 21:37:58 +0000

Based on our recent history and the testimonies of people who believe they have been racially profiled, yes, it would be a bit absurd (to me) to believe the FDNY would label truck owners as terrorists if they were all white. However, the absurdity only serves to diminish your perception of their level threat. The risk, albeit miniscule, of these carts exploding or being used for acts of terrorism is still the same as it always has been.

Crying racism is misguided because you’re already assuming all terrorists are a certain race. This has more to do with taxes, fearmongering, and unjust persecution of something we food-lovers love than racism. And it would have remained that way if you all hadn’t peppered this post with it.