Comments on: Ess a Bagel and the Ultimate Case of “That’s how they getcha!” http://midtownlunch.com/2007/10/08/ess-a-bagel-and-the-ultimate-case-of-thats-how-they-getcha/ Food Adventures for Your Urban Lunch Hour Wed, 19 Jun 2013 21:02:48 +0000 hourly 1 By: fishman@panix.com http://midtownlunch.com/2007/10/08/ess-a-bagel-and-the-ultimate-case-of-thats-how-they-getcha/comment-page-3/#comment-224139 fishman@panix.com Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:09:50 +0000 http://midtownlunch.com/blog/2007/10/08/ess-a-bagel-and-the-ultimate-case-of-thats-how-they-getcha/#comment-224139 Zach, a lot late but I just found this post referenced in your post for today (10/19/09). As to cream cheese addins, my mother used to buy cherry cream cheese from an appetizing store on Flatbush Avenue just south of Clarkson Avenue some 60+ years ago. (That is something that New York has lost - appetizing stores). And cream cheese with walnuts is another lost part of New York - that was what Chock-Full-O'Nuts was all about. And I am glad to see that you recognize the difference between lox, which is not smoked, and smoked salmon. Harvey Zach, a lot late but I just found this post referenced in your post for today (10/19/09). As to cream cheese addins,
my mother used to buy cherry cream cheese from an appetizing store on Flatbush Avenue just south of Clarkson Avenue some 60+ years ago. (That is something that New York has lost – appetizing stores). And cream cheese with walnuts is another lost part of New York – that was what Chock-Full-O’Nuts was all about. And I am glad to see that you recognize the difference between lox, which is not smoked, and smoked salmon.

Harvey

]]> By: JEK http://midtownlunch.com/2007/10/08/ess-a-bagel-and-the-ultimate-case-of-thats-how-they-getcha/comment-page-3/#comment-105427 JEK Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:47:52 +0000 http://midtownlunch.com/blog/2007/10/08/ess-a-bagel-and-the-ultimate-case-of-thats-how-they-getcha/#comment-105427 First off, I have to mention the Hot bagels in Fair Lawn. I wonder if it's related to the store in Teaneck. I haven't been there in a long while, but they were always a much more finely crafted product than the stuff coming out of the H&H factories. H&H the best? They don't even have a crust. Good bagels no doubt, but never the best, even when hot. And the best fish in the city is - by a mile - Murray's Sturgeon Shop on the Upper West Side. Best whitefish. Best sable. Best salmon. Best herring. An yes, even the best nova sandwich. Bar none. No, it's not midtown lunch, but it is the absolute archetype of the genre. It's not even close. If you want to know what smoked fish should be, this is it. BTW, their house bagels are better than H&H. First off, I have to mention the Hot bagels in Fair Lawn. I wonder if it’s related to the store in Teaneck. I haven’t been there in a long while, but they were always a much more finely crafted product than the stuff coming out of the H&H factories. H&H the best? They don’t even have a crust. Good bagels no doubt, but never the best, even when hot.

And the best fish in the city is – by a mile – Murray’s Sturgeon Shop on the Upper West Side. Best whitefish. Best sable. Best salmon. Best herring. An yes, even the best nova sandwich. Bar none. No, it’s not midtown lunch, but it is the absolute archetype of the genre. It’s not even close. If you want to know what smoked fish should be, this is it. BTW, their house bagels are better than H&H.

]]> By: em http://midtownlunch.com/2007/10/08/ess-a-bagel-and-the-ultimate-case-of-thats-how-they-getcha/comment-page-3/#comment-82859 em Tue, 08 Jan 2008 01:56:00 +0000 http://midtownlunch.com/blog/2007/10/08/ess-a-bagel-and-the-ultimate-case-of-thats-how-they-getcha/#comment-82859 Zach & Vishal --you are both right the best bagels, always fresh and made the way a bagel should be is at Teaneck road hot bagels 976 teaneck road right off rte. 4 Zach & Vishal –you are both right the best bagels, always fresh and made the way a bagel should be is at Teaneck road hot bagels 976 teaneck road right off rte. 4

]]> By: Midtown Lunch » Zagat Names Burger Joint Best Midtown Lunch http://midtownlunch.com/2007/10/08/ess-a-bagel-and-the-ultimate-case-of-thats-how-they-getcha/comment-page-2/#comment-37007 Midtown Lunch » Zagat Names Burger Joint Best Midtown Lunch Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:28:36 +0000 http://midtownlunch.com/blog/2007/10/08/ess-a-bagel-and-the-ultimate-case-of-thats-how-they-getcha/#comment-37007 [...] Hotel has received the highest score of any Midtown Lunch that appears in the guide (a 24).  Ess a Bagel, who I wrote about this week, was a close runner up with a 23.  If you expand the Midtown Lunch [...] [...] Hotel has received the highest score of any Midtown Lunch that appears in the guide (a 24).  Ess a Bagel, who I wrote about this week, was a close runner up with a 23.  If you expand the Midtown Lunch [...]

]]> By: DDR http://midtownlunch.com/2007/10/08/ess-a-bagel-and-the-ultimate-case-of-thats-how-they-getcha/comment-page-2/#comment-36411 DDR Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:54:48 +0000 http://midtownlunch.com/blog/2007/10/08/ess-a-bagel-and-the-ultimate-case-of-thats-how-they-getcha/#comment-36411 I couldn't disagree more with the recommendation of the Zabar's pre-made special. As far as I know, they only offer plain bagels with cream cheese and lox already shmeared on. Then they refrigerate the whole thing! The fastest way to make a fresh bagel go to crap is to refrigerate it. It's more effort, but if you can buy a bagel of your choice from H&H 30 feet away from Zabar's, then go to Zabar's, buy just enough cream cheese for one bagel, and have them weigh whatever amount of lox you want and then top your H&H bagel with it -- now that's something to write home about. I couldn’t disagree more with the recommendation of the Zabar’s pre-made special. As far as I know, they only offer plain bagels with cream cheese and lox already shmeared on. Then they refrigerate the whole thing! The fastest way to make a fresh bagel go to crap is to refrigerate it.

It’s more effort, but if you can buy a bagel of your choice from H&H 30 feet away from Zabar’s, then go to Zabar’s, buy just enough cream cheese for one bagel, and have them weigh whatever amount of lox you want and then top your H&H bagel with it — now that’s something to write home about.

]]> By: Emily http://midtownlunch.com/2007/10/08/ess-a-bagel-and-the-ultimate-case-of-thats-how-they-getcha/comment-page-2/#comment-36401 Emily Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:02:15 +0000 http://midtownlunch.com/blog/2007/10/08/ess-a-bagel-and-the-ultimate-case-of-thats-how-they-getcha/#comment-36401 If you are ever on the upper west side (definitely not midtown lunch area), you can get a bagel with lox and cream cheese for I think $5.95 at Zabars. It is pre-made, but still quite delicious as they are done daily, and one of the best bargains I can think of. They also do whitefish salad and a roll for like $4.50 or so . . . .so yummy . . . If you are ever on the upper west side (definitely not midtown lunch area), you can get a bagel with lox and cream cheese for I think $5.95 at Zabars. It is pre-made, but still quite delicious as they are done daily, and one of the best bargains I can think of. They also do whitefish salad and a roll for like $4.50 or so . . . .so yummy . . .

]]> By: Vishal http://midtownlunch.com/2007/10/08/ess-a-bagel-and-the-ultimate-case-of-thats-how-they-getcha/comment-page-2/#comment-36271 Vishal Wed, 10 Oct 2007 02:44:12 +0000 http://midtownlunch.com/blog/2007/10/08/ess-a-bagel-and-the-ultimate-case-of-thats-how-they-getcha/#comment-36271 zack- You talkin Hot Bagels on Teaneck Road? zack- You talkin Hot Bagels on Teaneck Road?

]]> By: Chris http://midtownlunch.com/2007/10/08/ess-a-bagel-and-the-ultimate-case-of-thats-how-they-getcha/comment-page-2/#comment-36200 Chris Tue, 09 Oct 2007 20:43:25 +0000 http://midtownlunch.com/blog/2007/10/08/ess-a-bagel-and-the-ultimate-case-of-thats-how-they-getcha/#comment-36200 Ess-a-Bagel isn't the only place guilty of this. I would say that roughly 90% of the bagel shops in this city have absoluetly no indication of exactly how much anything costs. My bagel shop in the EV is no different - want cream cheese? It's extra, but not the same extra cost as the difference between a plain bagel and one with cream cheese. It's mind-boggling and it seems arbitrary at best. Ess-a-Bagel isn’t the only place guilty of this. I would say that roughly 90% of the bagel shops in this city have absoluetly no indication of exactly how much anything costs. My bagel shop in the EV is no different – want cream cheese? It’s extra, but not the same extra cost as the difference between a plain bagel and one with cream cheese. It’s mind-boggling and it seems arbitrary at best.

]]> By: Sara the Oyster Fan http://midtownlunch.com/2007/10/08/ess-a-bagel-and-the-ultimate-case-of-thats-how-they-getcha/comment-page-2/#comment-36197 Sara the Oyster Fan Tue, 09 Oct 2007 20:12:18 +0000 http://midtownlunch.com/blog/2007/10/08/ess-a-bagel-and-the-ultimate-case-of-thats-how-they-getcha/#comment-36197 OK, fine, I'll give you salt. They're much better than the hot pretzels available on the street anyway. OK, fine, I’ll give you salt. They’re much better than the hot pretzels available on the street anyway.

]]> By: JacksonH http://midtownlunch.com/2007/10/08/ess-a-bagel-and-the-ultimate-case-of-thats-how-they-getcha/comment-page-2/#comment-36176 JacksonH Tue, 09 Oct 2007 18:55:38 +0000 http://midtownlunch.com/blog/2007/10/08/ess-a-bagel-and-the-ultimate-case-of-thats-how-they-getcha/#comment-36176 I meant to say whitefish above, not whitefish salad. I meant to say whitefish above, not whitefish salad.

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